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@  45catfan : (19 August 2017 - 05:52 PM)

3-0 turnover ratio = loss every time!

@  SuperCam : (19 August 2017 - 04:02 PM)

Webb has looked good so far.

@  SuperCam : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 PM)

Are they telling Byrd to take out all kick offs?

@  SuperCam : (19 August 2017 - 03:36 PM)

Titans are 3 for 3 on 4th downs. They just want it more right now.

@  SuperCam : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

So far, there have been quite a few showing zero.

@  firstchance : (19 August 2017 - 03:14 PM)

I know a lot of people around here like Cash, don't know if because he played at Duke or because he was an UDF, but he has showed me zero.

@  firstchance : (19 August 2017 - 03:05 PM)

his*

@  firstchance : (19 August 2017 - 03:05 PM)

Southward's hair must had gotten in hi way.

@  firstchance : (19 August 2017 - 03:04 PM)

That 1st quarter mano a mano was embarrassing

@  firstchance : (19 August 2017 - 03:02 PM)

Yes he is and the blocking was there. Good to see even is they didnt have their first teamers in.

@  SuperCam : (19 August 2017 - 03:00 PM)

Finally. C Mac. Fast.

@  SuperCam : (19 August 2017 - 02:47 PM)

*1st teamers. Stupid autocorrect.

@  SuperCam : (19 August 2017 - 02:46 PM)

Just like that. 17 to 0. And it's still the 1st Qtr. It's not encouraging since most of 1st framers are out there right now.

@  firstchance : (19 August 2017 - 02:44 PM)

i guess it is all Mike Shula's fault

@  firstchance : (19 August 2017 - 02:43 PM)

worley is horrible, just horrible

@  SuperCam : (19 August 2017 - 02:42 PM)

Another TO.

@  SuperCam : (19 August 2017 - 02:42 PM)

All 3 phases.

@  firstchance : (19 August 2017 - 02:39 PM)

Great coaching...Byrd fields a punt at the 5 yard line...this is embarrassing

@  firstchance : (19 August 2017 - 02:34 PM)

This well prepared panthers squad looks like a college team verses a NFL team. I know it is preseason but show some pride and effort.

@  SuperCam : (19 August 2017 - 02:29 PM)

Not a promising start, but gotta rebound. Bad practice on Thursday looks to have carried over a bit to the beginning of this game.


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#1 Spook

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 08:48 AM

Now Ron Turner has been added as a coaching consultant. Lot of history between the staff and Turner so this could be a extra set of eyeballs with football brains to help figure out how to best use the talents of CMC and Samuel.


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Posted 17 June 2017 - 02:44 PM

Well Norv's family should have plenty of Offensive knowledge. We have Cameron Turner too as an Assistant QB coach.


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Posted 17 June 2017 - 02:50 PM

Been offline for a while....as it is the offseason and I primarily focus on the draft, but I thought this was very interesting in that he is helping the offense AND defense out. Can never have too many smart brains in one place right?


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Posted 17 June 2017 - 06:14 PM

Norv will be here next year if the offense sputters again this season.


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 07:15 PM

Norv will be here next year if the offense sputters again this season.

 

Norv as OC is something I could deal with.  I don't care for him as a HC, but as a coordinator, I like the idea.  


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Posted 19 June 2017 - 08:34 PM

Norv as OC is something I could deal with.  I don't care for him as a HC, but as a coordinator, I like the idea.  

Ditto.   I guess I should have specified...yes, as the OC.


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Posted 19 June 2017 - 09:34 PM

I would much rather have Norv than Shula! That's who I was hoping he would have chosen after Chud.
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Posted 01 July 2017 - 09:58 AM

Norv as OC is something I could deal with.  I don't care for him as a HC, but as a coordinator, I like the idea.  

Same here, 007!


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Posted 09 July 2017 - 12:47 AM

Here's a little from The News Gazette about Turner.

 

Turner's role as a consultant will see him work with Rivera and Shula on game planning and in-game strategy. He won't have a position to coach, but he will be in the booth on Sundays alongside the Carolina coaches.

 

"From self scout, giving Mke Shula some thoughts on tendencies we have and we're doing and how I can help there and then game planning," Turner said in describing his consulting duties. "Studying the film and having some input with (Rivera). I'm excited about it. I think it's a good opportunity."

 

 If ya wanna read the whole article:  http://www.news-gaze...h-improved.html

 

I like all they've done to help Shula; Matsko is run coordinator, adding Ron Turner's son (Cameron ) as assistant QB coach should be a positive.  I guess hiring Lance Taylor as WR coach is still a question mark but he should be able to help in using CMc and I like bringing Cotchery back as assistant WR coach.

 I also like Ron as a consultant, especially on the offensive side of the ball. Shula now has a Right and Left Hand Man.

 For a couple years now I've said the Patriots keep extra coaches and-or consultants that most teams don't carry; now I think DG is catching up. When Robert Kraft hired Belichick he told him he'd supply all the resources he needed.

 

 I like what DG has done this off-season but I'm not fond of Norv Turner as HC or OC. I think his system is out-dated, especially after his stint with the Vikings. After all DG & Mr Richardson has done for Shula this off-season there shouldn't be a need for another OC next year. Shula may even look like a genius after this season?



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Posted 09 July 2017 - 01:38 AM

Shula a genius? Only if he's got massive help/little control on play calling. Heaven help us. Yes I know who his dad was. Constructive criticism? Heh!

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Posted 09 July 2017 - 12:28 PM

Shula a genius? Only if he's got massive help/little control on play calling. Heaven help us. Yes I know who his dad was. Constructive criticism? Heh!

Folks, we've seen 3 consecutive NFC Champonships and a SB appearance during his tenure. I, for one vote to give the man some slack. Till we see him step in a pile, I've got to support this guy. Just my 2 cents worth.


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Posted 09 July 2017 - 01:15 PM

Folks, we've seen 3 consecutive NFC Champonships and a SB appearance during his tenure. I, for one vote to give the man some slack. Till we see him step in a pile, I've got to support this guy. Just my 2 cents worth.

Shula's fault lies in tendencies.  That's why we hired Turner. Mike rides something that works until it doesn't...attempting to drink from the same well that's long been dry.  Usually by the time of this revelation we are so deep into the season that changing course is tough to do and change is met with stubborn resistance.  It's not that he can't evolve, it's the mentality that 'it's worked well this far...so we keep doing it'.  Alas, defenses figure out how to stop what our offense is doing and WE are the ones scrambling and seemingly have the difficult task of adaptation.

 

Turner is tabbed with saying to the coaches something along this line (namely the offensive staff) 'The league has figured these sets of plays out, they are no longer effective for us, store them away and let's replace them with some new wrinkles.'  Shula should be open to this advise and adapt, not letting his pride get in the way. Shula can adapt, the question is how open he is to constructive criticism by Turner and the ability to quickly implement the proposed changes.






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