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@  45catfan : (19 August 2017 - 05:52 PM)

3-0 turnover ratio = loss every time!

@  SuperCam : (19 August 2017 - 04:02 PM)

Webb has looked good so far.

@  SuperCam : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 PM)

Are they telling Byrd to take out all kick offs?

@  SuperCam : (19 August 2017 - 03:36 PM)

Titans are 3 for 3 on 4th downs. They just want it more right now.

@  SuperCam : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

So far, there have been quite a few showing zero.

@  firstchance : (19 August 2017 - 03:14 PM)

I know a lot of people around here like Cash, don't know if because he played at Duke or because he was an UDF, but he has showed me zero.

@  firstchance : (19 August 2017 - 03:05 PM)

his*

@  firstchance : (19 August 2017 - 03:05 PM)

Southward's hair must had gotten in hi way.

@  firstchance : (19 August 2017 - 03:04 PM)

That 1st quarter mano a mano was embarrassing

@  firstchance : (19 August 2017 - 03:02 PM)

Yes he is and the blocking was there. Good to see even is they didnt have their first teamers in.

@  SuperCam : (19 August 2017 - 03:00 PM)

Finally. C Mac. Fast.

@  SuperCam : (19 August 2017 - 02:47 PM)

*1st teamers. Stupid autocorrect.

@  SuperCam : (19 August 2017 - 02:46 PM)

Just like that. 17 to 0. And it's still the 1st Qtr. It's not encouraging since most of 1st framers are out there right now.

@  firstchance : (19 August 2017 - 02:44 PM)

i guess it is all Mike Shula's fault

@  firstchance : (19 August 2017 - 02:43 PM)

worley is horrible, just horrible

@  SuperCam : (19 August 2017 - 02:42 PM)

Another TO.

@  SuperCam : (19 August 2017 - 02:42 PM)

All 3 phases.

@  firstchance : (19 August 2017 - 02:39 PM)

Great coaching...Byrd fields a punt at the 5 yard line...this is embarrassing

@  firstchance : (19 August 2017 - 02:34 PM)

This well prepared panthers squad looks like a college team verses a NFL team. I know it is preseason but show some pride and effort.

@  SuperCam : (19 August 2017 - 02:29 PM)

Not a promising start, but gotta rebound. Bad practice on Thursday looks to have carried over a bit to the beginning of this game.


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#1 firstchance

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Posted 11 August 2017 - 05:02 PM

Panthers coach Ron Rivera said "the hope" is to have DT Vernon Butler (knee) ready for the season opener.

Butler's Thursday MRI confirmed he's only dealing with a sprain. He'll miss the rest of the preseason, but has a chance to be back for Week 1. Butler will open the year in a rotational role if healthy.


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 06:56 PM

Dang.  A sprain isn't a good way to start a season.  Glad he'll have time to heal some between now & then.



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Posted 11 August 2017 - 09:00 PM

Dang.  A sprain isn't a good way to start a season.  Glad he'll have time to heal some between now & then.

Better than a tare.  The way Butler was acting, I thought he tore a ligament for sure.  So a sprain is a relief considering the alternative.


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Posted 11 August 2017 - 09:26 PM

Dude felt just like I did when he felt it n fell (for him, not for me). TWO straight seasons?!?! Sprains, really!?! Damn rehab... Poor man. Unlucky start.

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 02:12 AM

I'm wondering about his leg strength and leg conditioning. This whole sprain/strain thing gives me pause for reflection.  Wonder if Kenn is working on this.?? Sprains are bad things. No surgical options, just rest and rehab. Sometimes it takes a long time. Fingers crossed..!!


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 05:58 AM

Better than a tare.  The way Butler was acting, I thought he tore a ligament for sure.  So a sprain is a relief considering the alternative.

 

From his reaction, I thought ACL, but I'm glad to hear it was just a sprain.



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Posted 12 August 2017 - 07:38 AM

​ I copied and pasted this from the panthers.com site>>> http://www.panthers....0e-2ce46942a32c

{{{{{{Butler went down with about five minutes left in the first quarter of Wednesday's preseason opener against the Texans when he was blindsided by a crack-back block from offensive tackle Breno Giacomini. Butler pounded his fist in the turf as medical attention arrived.

Rivera said he sent a replay to the league for review. }}}}}}}

 

I still hadn't re-watched the game; What do you guys think about the crack-back block ?

 

I first thought it was a sucker punch and at the same time I said out loud; keep your head on a swivel Butler. When I coached School ball I was famous for telling players to "keep your head on a swivel". Always stay alert because there's always someone out there looking to take a blind side cheap shot.



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Posted 12 August 2017 - 12:15 PM

​ I copied and pasted this from the panthers.com site>>> http://www.panthers....0e-2ce46942a32c

{{{{{{Butler went down with about five minutes left in the first quarter of Wednesday's preseason opener against the Texans when he was blindsided by a crack-back block from offensive tackle Breno Giacomini. Butler pounded his fist in the turf as medical attention arrived.

Rivera said he sent a replay to the league for review. }}}}}}}

 

I still hadn't re-watched the game; What do you guys think about the crack-back block ?

 

I first thought it was a sucker punch and at the same time I said out loud; keep your head on a swivel Butler. When I coached School ball I was famous for telling players to "keep your head on a swivel". Always stay alert because there's always someone out there looking to take a blind side cheap shot.

 

 

You know, things have changed a lot since I played. We were actually taught to utilize crack back blocks as a first line technique. We would open holes in the line with a pulling guard and when the D player would come through he would be instantly met with a crack back coming down the line. The surprise "blind" hit would usually be enough to open up the hole for the RB. Tough players survived, others got hurt. These days the propensity for injuries keeps those "tough guy" plays off of the field for the most part. I hate players getting hurt, but it's a tough man's game. Seriously.....


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 01:45 PM

Went back and reviewed frame by frame, clearly not an illegal block. It was shoulder to shoulder and the guy got in front of Butler. In fact, after reviewing frame by frame it is difficult to tell if the injury happened on that block (it appeared that Butler's foot was not firmly planted as the heel was up) or after the guy kept coming after him  

once he was down...doing his job, in my opinion.  


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 01:50 PM

You know, things have changed a lot since I played. We were actually taught to utilize crack back blocks as a first line technique. We would open holes in the line with a pulling guard and when the D player would come through he would be instantly met with a crack back coming down the line. The surprise "blind" hit would usually be enough to open up the hole for the RB. Tough players survived, others got hurt. These days the propensity for injuries keeps those "tough guy" plays off of the field for the most part. I hate players getting hurt, but it's a tough man's game. Seriously.....

 

 I always said that thinking slow on the football field will get you hurt. Some players naturally think fast some don't. Being clumsy will also get a player hurt among other things. I hope this will be a positive wake-up call for Butler 


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 02:34 AM

 

You know, things have changed a lot since I played. We were actually taught to utilize crack back blocks as a first line technique. We would open holes in the line with a pulling guard and when the D player would come through he would be instantly met with a crack back coming down the line. The surprise "blind" hit would usually be enough to open up the hole for the RB. Tough players survived, others got hurt. These days the propensity for injuries keeps those "tough guy" plays off of the field for the most part. I hate players getting hurt, but it's a tough man's game. Seriously.....

 

 I always said that thinking slow on the football field will get you hurt. Some players naturally think fast some don't. Being clumsy will also get a player hurt among other things. I hope this will be a positive wake-up call for Butler 

 

 

 

Yep.... Really need to stay alert. Things happen fast around the line of scrimmage...






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