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@  Josh211 : (04 February 2018 - 10:00 PM)

5 pt game.

@  Josh211 : (04 February 2018 - 10:00 PM)

Good call.

@  Josh211 : (04 February 2018 - 09:59 PM)

If that's not a catch, the fix is in. He was a runner.

@  Stirs : (04 February 2018 - 09:22 PM)

Well, that Eli commercial makes me want to go take a bath

@  Stirs : (04 February 2018 - 09:21 PM)

35-33 Eagles?

@  Stirs : (04 February 2018 - 09:19 PM)

955 yds and not even to the 4th qtr yet, haha

@  Stirs : (04 February 2018 - 09:19 PM)

Agholar good at following blocks

@  Josh211 : (04 February 2018 - 09:14 PM)

Close to it!

@  Stirs : (04 February 2018 - 09:11 PM)

Gonna be over 1000 yds of offense by the time this one is over. haha

@  Stirs : (04 February 2018 - 09:07 PM)

Foles doing an exceptional job for a backup

@  Josh211 : (04 February 2018 - 09:00 PM)

Almost a TD. Hope it holds up.

@  Josh211 : (04 February 2018 - 08:47 PM)

Dang it...

@  Josh211 : (04 February 2018 - 08:34 PM)

Keep the clamps on Phi!

@  Josh211 : (04 February 2018 - 08:33 PM)

Good half time show.

@  Josh211 : (04 February 2018 - 08:09 PM)

Gotta step up in the pass game!

@  Josh211 : (04 February 2018 - 08:07 PM)

If only first... I think he does, run wise.

@  Josh211 : (04 February 2018 - 08:05 PM)

Great playcall!

@  firstchance : (04 February 2018 - 08:02 PM)

Lordy, I wish Cam understood the game as much as Foles does.

@  Josh211 : (04 February 2018 - 07:10 PM)

I'll be here.

@  Josh211 : (04 February 2018 - 07:04 PM)

It's the SB! N goodish commercials.


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#1 ncpantherfan

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 07:50 PM

So much for football losing money because of players disrespecting flag. Goodell just signed a big contract. Everything must be perfect in football land. Fans didn't make them pay.



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Posted 07 December 2017 - 12:44 AM

Football is ok now, not great. Glad Goodell got more millions for mediocre ratings. If he was a ceo he would be out a job.

Remember football in the 70's? Was competitive n fun. I've never seen a play like when Gronk leveled a player for beating him. Worst pf I've seen in 10 years. Gronk was in the wrong!

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 01:21 AM

He got me, let it be. Don't hit him while he's down! Dirty! Pats mantra. Hit em period. A week seems too little.

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 06:49 AM

Gronk looked like a spoiled brat exhibiting some thuggish behavior. 



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Posted 07 December 2017 - 09:21 AM

He got me, let it be. Don't hit him while he's down! Dirty! Pats mantra. Hit em period. A week seems too little.

 

I thought a 1 game suspension was adequate and I was glad to see he at least got that. He doesn't really have a history of doing things like that. And this is coming from a guy who really does not like the Patriots and is quite put off by Gronk's off-field behavior and high school senior sense of humor.

 

Its not like he has a history similar to Burfict or Talib. Travis Kelce's on-field behavior is the worst I've seen from a tight end currently.



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Posted 07 December 2017 - 07:09 PM

If you take a close look at that play....I mean a close look, you will see that Gronk was just standing there when the play ended and was blown dead. The play was over and the guy was starting to get up when Gronk decided it was time to launch into the guy for no reason and drive his head into the ground causing a concussion. Really obvious......One of the worst examples of behavior I have seen recently. It reminds me of the play where OBJ launched through the air helmet first at Norman (missed him thankfully...), after the play was essentially dead. A blatant attempt to hurt someone that could have caused serious injury. Gronk should be ashamed... He SHOULD have been thrown out of the game right them. His suspension is definitely justified and could have been longer. The player he injured is still out.... and might be for a while. Why not Gronk.??

 

Accidental things happen in this league frequently enough to provide excitement and a danger risk to the players. These INTENTIONAL things have no place in the game. Think about it..... Someone losing their temper out on the street and injuring someone like that gets them a trip to jail and prison sentence. In the football arena we allow it in the name of "sport". We hold our nose and slap their hands and tell them "Bad Boy.!!" Yes, play the game tough..... Yes, hit your opponent within the rules..... Yes, run hard, play hard, tackle hard..... ALL within the rules. When the play escalates to INTENTIONALLY trying to hurt or maime someone, to punish someone because of anger issues, it's going too far. These premeditated, intentional acts have no place in the game.



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Posted 07 December 2017 - 07:11 PM

Football is ok now, not great. Glad Goodell got more millions for mediocre ratings. If he was a ceo he would be out a job.

Remember football in the 70's? Was competitive n fun. I've never seen a play like when Gronk leveled a player for beating him. Worst pf I've seen in 10 years. Gronk was in the wrong!

Back in the day, hits like that were the norm. Players sucker punched and slammed each other that would make today seems like tiddlywinks.



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Posted 07 December 2017 - 08:42 PM

See hobbit's response. Not after the play.

Gronk had a 10 second choice, it was the wrong one... He chose to do that. Not a football thing. That's personal. N thuggish.
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#9 ncpantherfan

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 02:21 AM

As I was trying to say at the beginning, keeping Goodell is football's way of saying, fans stay out of our business.



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 02:46 AM

 It reminds me of the play where OBJ launched through the air helmet first at Norman (missed him thankfully...),

 

If it's the play I'm thinking of, OBJ definitely connected with Norman. To this day, I still can't believe OBJ wasn't ejected on the spot.

 

Speaking of OBJ, he recently came out and complained that Tom Brady can yell at his coach on the sidelines and he gets a pass, but when he (OBJ) shows emotion, he gets grilled by the media, implying that there's a race issue involved.

 

Sorry, Brady isn't spearing other defenseless players, attacking kicking nets, and celebrating touchdowns by pantomiming a urinating dog in the endzone.

 

There's a little difference between the two histories.

 

Nice way to play the race card though, OBJ. :rolleyes:


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 09:54 AM

The player he injured is still out.... and might be for a while. Why not Gronk.??

 

 

Well it has only been a week. So we don't know how long the Buffalo kid is gonna be out. He may just miss one week. Gronk ain't playing this week.

 

But I have always thought if you really want to keep this knuckleheads from doing something like Gronk pulled (and the Vikings guy who injured Rodgers), then you should suspend them the length of time that the player they injured is out. Indefinite suspension. There may be some gray area in terms of the injury report and not knowing if a guy can come back or not. Maybe instead of indefinite suspension come up with an average length of weeks that a player misses with the type of injury that occurs as a result.

 

I only advocate this if it is blatantly obvious that the player who committed the foul did it with malicious intent. The player should also be immediately ejected from the game.

 

Gronk should have to miss as much time as the Buffalo kid misses. It would also help police against stuff like Bountygate. 



#12 Josh211

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Posted 09 December 2017 - 12:05 AM

As I was trying to say at the beginning, keeping Goodell is football's way of saying, fans stay out of our business.



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Posted 09 December 2017 - 12:06 AM

Yup. We don't matter. Till viewership hits 0...

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Posted 11 December 2017 - 11:34 AM

As I was trying to say at the beginning, keeping Goodell is football's way of saying, fans stay out of our business.

 

 

I am not going to pretend that I understand what you are saying here... cause I don't. ???????  I mean, I am educated and I understand English just fine, thank you very much. I just don't understand the seeming "hate" shown toward Goodell here..??  ANY commissioner is going to have the same issues. Goodell is merely doing what the TEAMS hired him to do, watch over the league.!

 

It's like turning your dog loose to run in the evening and then getting all up in arms when the local animal control guy puts him in "doggie jail".  Don't blame the guy.... Don't blame Goodell.... He has a job to do. His job is to promote the game and the spirit of the game without getting involved in the day to day or the politics of the players and their representative union.  Look, I know the fans want to believe that their own players are"God's gift.." and that their sh*t doesn't stink, but REALITY is different. These players are looking out for themselves, first and foremost. Everything they do reflects first on themselves. It is important to remember that SOMEONE has to speak for the GAME.!! Goodell doesn't speak for the players, nor does he intervene for the teams against the players. Those player issues take place between the teams and the players and their "union". ******* SOMEONE HAS TO EXERCISE CONTROL OF THE LEAGUE.!! ******* 

 

I, for one, am not stupid enough to believe that Belichick would EVER sanction one of his players for anything. Do you think he would.??? Without league oversight, would Gronk ever see ANY kind of sanction for that play.?? Would Ndamukong Suh EVER be controlled AT ANY LEVEL.??? What about  James Harrison; Richie Incognito; Albert Haynesworth; Justin Tuck; Cortland Finnegan....???? And Others...??? 

Without league intervention, this game would quickly get WAY out of control. Teams want to win, and as long as that happens they are happy. They just don't care if a player does something wrong as long as he doesn't get caught. 

 

Now here in PantherLand things are not quite so far off. JR wants a quality team and tries to keep it that way by selecting his front office carefully and watching out for his players. This returns dividends as I'm certain all of you understand. Still, I KNOW you all realize that all teams and staffs are not so inclined. Without the league, who would watch for player problems like health issues and drug abuse and ??? Who would call a player out for doing something wrong and ENFORCE the penalty for doing it.?? The Players Union..???  What a laugh.!!

 

So, say what you want to about this.... The truth is, some of you would never be satisfied with ANY oversight. You don't care if your players cheat or maime or injure... You don't care anything about the game as long as your team wins... AND, very few of you care ANYTHING about the TEAM itself. It's all about "Pay The Man".!! Everything revolves around these self-centered players who demand more and more money to entertain us. 

 

So, come on, get off of your high horse and realize that if this game is to survive, the players and the teams must survive too. That requires oversight. And proper oversight requires the league to take action when appropriate. That precludes the players and the teams from controlling the league...and YES, the fans too!!!. Sure you could get rid of Goodell... But you would have to replace him with someone in exactly the same position. Someone has to accept the responsibility for policing the league. For now, that is Goodell.

 

Such is the way of things.



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Posted 11 December 2017 - 07:09 PM

See hobbit's response. Not after the play. (REALLY..??)

Gronk had a 10 second choice, it was the wrong one... He chose to do that. Not a football thing. That's personal. N thuggish.

 

 

Josh... Not certain what you are saying here... (..??)  "Not after the play.."  

 

It most definitely WAS after the play.!! White had completed the play and was on the ground and "down by contact." He then rolled over and raised his head and started to move toward getting up. In addition, he was across the sideline and out of bounds at this point. The play was DEAD.!! Gronk hesitated for a couple of quick "chop steps" then attacked White as he was trying to get up, driving his left forearm into White's head/neck area causing the concussion.  #13 had already touched White down, the player was out of bounds, and the play was dead. Gronk deliberately decided to attack White knowing the play was dead attempting to be an "enforcer" (or something..??).

 

Take a look at this replay footage. Its plain to see and there is NO doubt...

 

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Posted 11 December 2017 - 11:45 PM

Oh, I saw it. I meant after the play stuff is really bad. Hence Gronk trying to hit neone after 10s decision, after the play, Ridiculous, n worth the suspension, if not more... In the run of the game is one thing. After, no Bueno.
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Posted 12 December 2017 - 08:57 PM

Oh, I saw it. I meant after the play stuff is really bad. Hence Gronk trying to hit neone after 10s decision, after the play, Ridiculous, n worth the suspension, if not more... In the run of the game is one thing. After, no Bueno.

 

 

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Posted 12 December 2017 - 11:58 PM

No worries, just wanted u to know that i thought that play was bs. Sorry I confused u!




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